seishinbudojo (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

oki.. cheers ..

punchy999 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

It means that any and all stories that kunii wanted anyone other than seki to take his place as shihanke are PATENTLY FALSE.It also means that seki gets to decide what is and what is not kssr, although this should be easy enough to tell just by the fact that if you teach or train aikido you probably arent doing kssr.Hope that helps

seishinbudojo (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

what does this mean then? that seki is the one?

vilppi (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

A photo of the "Kashima-Shinryu Kaidensho" addressed to "Kashima-Shinryu shihanke Seki [Fumitake]" by the "18th generation Kunii Zen'ya [Minamoto no Michiyuki]", along with Kunii sensei's stamp can be found on the page 116 in Friday, Karl: "Legacies of the Sword - The Kashima-Shinryu and Samurai Martial Culture", Hawaii University Press, 1997

marujosan (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

The sadest part of it all ( in my world anyways ) is that I see aikidokas only feeding their ego.. claiming stuff just for their egos sake.. Osensei would not approve.. :(Have a very nice day :)

marujosan (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

you are totally right Killerfish. I have only seen very little KSR, and thats with Kunii sensei and Seki sensei here on YT.. and ofcourse I cant see a shite in a video containing 2 mins with Seki. All I can see is that it is ( as you wrote ) "lookalike" to what I've seen.. but that doesnt mean a thing. I mean...I wouldnt know, since I dont practice KSR.

killerfish86 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Thanks maru for your level headed words. There's only one thing that you said that I can fully disagree with, though. For those who practice KSSR, what Inaba does looks nothing like what KSSR is. Sure, a lot of the techniques look similar on the outside, but a lot of techniques are also near unrecognizable. The fact is that the timing, focus, energy usage, ect that he teaches (the pure heart of the kata) is completely different from what KSSR teaches, and we can see that from his techniques.

marujosan (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

1 more thing... Even if the story goes like youngaikidoka writes, as Tanaka sensei says... it does not matter at all. Still Inaba is not a KSR member and therefore he is not doing KSR.. Even if Inaba sensei was asked to lead the ryu and declined, he is still not doing KSR. Since he is not a ryu member... Just my two brown pennies ;)

marujosan (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

so therefore.. punchy is right, all the other guys are right.. Inaba minoru sensei is not a KSR practitioner - to be that he would have to go to KSR hombu, sign in as a student and start to study there... But aikiken sounds wrong - since aikiken never is about swordwork - its about the principles of aikido.. *Have a nice day and take care.. be gentle! ( Im sorry for miss spellings and eventual errors about how it works inside the ksr ryu )

marujosan (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I found two reasons for me to keep on calling my swordwork for KSR: 1. I have bad intentions towards the KRS family; not respecting their history and the rules of their school that they have been running for hundreds of years.2. I allow my ego to have it his way. And.. the ego is something we have to work with in our budo, not something we should nourish..