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ugowar (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Also, if you're only willing to admit the R-7 a.k.a. Soyuz is a success, might I point out to you the inherent DESIGN FLAW of the Space shuttle. In that it REALLY, REALLY doesn't like any debris shed from the External Tank. Which is fine, I guess, except you CANNOT avoid debris from the ET foam. That qualifies as a design defect in my book. Caused a loss of life of one crew (Columbia) so far and much effort in mitigation, to little avail.
ugowar (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Who the hell is implying being proud of America's success is wrong? Your rhetoric is pitiful. If you think I'm bashing American space progam, see what videos I have posted. It's you who's downplaying the Russian efforts on purpose. As if though YOU yourself contributed to the Saturn V, yeah right. Hint: Wernher Von Braun was German. U.S. had capable engineers just as soviets had. The U.S. engineers had the benefit of LEARNING from Von Braun team so cut the "smashing victory" B.S. for once.
ugowar (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Smashing victory - LOL. Look, fanboy, I can see this "argument" serves no purpose anymore as you're unwilling to admit any other nation was even close to "your" expertise, which is beyond ironic seeing how Wernher Von Braun, a natural born German, led "your" Saturn V program. Get off the high horse of yours already. Where did I say anything about a level playing field? The Soviets never stood a chance against American economy. I thought an intelligent person would conclude that from my comment.
ugowar (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Where the fuck did I imply America cheated????? Please, DO SHOW ME HOW YOU ARRIVED AT THIS CONCLUSION.Look at my goddamn profile, see what videos I have posted and you'll see I haven't got a goddamn thing against the American Moon program.
Plutoplatter (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Agreed, the RD-170 & RD-180 engines are good engines. And the workhorse Soyuz launch is a workhorse success (except for that time it caught fire prior to a manned launch). Other than that, well, that's about it for the quality space products of the Grand Socialist Experiment. America's? A veritable shopping mall of successful gear and services, compared to the Soviet small second-hand goods store across the street. And you are so comical, implying that being proud of America's success is wrong!
Plutoplatter (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Your means of reationalizing America's smashing victory over the Soviet space program is to insist that the space race would only have been fair 'on a level playing field'....as long as you get to keep re-levelling the playing field to ensure that the Soviets are not held to be the reason for their own failure. you really have to tilt the playing field almost vertical in favor of the Russkies to 'splain away why, even after all these years, no Soviet/Russian manned ship has reached the Moon.
Plutoplatter (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Your argument has become specious. Your logic is this: America won, so America must have cheated. Well, at least you are clear in your lunacy.
ugowar (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
The space race was won by U.S. superior economy, NOT superior know-how. Superior economy enables advanced technology development, with which the soviets could not compete (no matter how good their scientists and engineers were). Period.
ugowar (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
I don't think you realize just how much money was spent on the Apollo program compared to what the soviet economy was able to provide so your comment about how the U.S. could have kicked Soviet ass even more with more funds is irrelevant. I'm talking about EQUAL grounds here, which Soviets were not on. NOT due to crappy engineering.
ugowar (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Engineers CHOSE to produce terrible equipment? Puh-leese, get of that ignorancy trip of yours. Nobody in their sane minds spends so much manpower as rocket engineers are forced to do to deliberately make crappy equipment. Neither the U.S. engineers nor the Soviet engineers did. If you really believe so, there's no point in arguing with you.You think the F-1 engine would work without a shitload of testing Rocketdyne did? You think testing would have been performed if the money wasn't there? |
